Here's a podcast that I really enjoyed. Thanks Verena Rose! The podcast is available from a link from Audible, Spotify, I Heart Radio, or Amazon Music. Here's the Audible link: https://www.audible.com/podcast/Episode-48-Sunday-Tea-with-V-and-Larry-D-Sweazy/B0CWVRPTC1?clientContext=134-7556624-7270013&creativeId=6c5159d7-bb10-4fb4-929b-ae2b2f5000c7&loginAttempt=true&pageLoadId=w3xikRfeW6nv9ba5&ref=a_podcast_S_c3_lAsin_0_0&ref_pageloadid=KZkQsWDvxctVmTf0